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chobi wrote:Well Galled, it's not quite like that. People faced with negativity all the time and from all sides (from friends, family, work/school/collage, random people all around) at the same time, would have to fight with everyone on all sides in order to have a chance for small acceptance but that kind of acceptance would not come, because the sole effort of fighting (resisting the claims that you are worst then shit lets say) brings negativity to them because you are not accepting the situation, you're not doing what they want you to and this gets them to become more negative and so on.
), but is this somewhat a case of the glass half empty vs half full? I don't mean to be confrontational, but in my experience anytime someone uses absolutes it tends to flag slanted views.chobi wrote:I think avoiding this kind of encounters is the best because lets face it, life is not all that long for us to spent it trying to prove something to people do't have the patience to say a couple of encouraging words or just hold on some harsh words.
chobi wrote:I don't get along with my parents as well MonkeyGirl18 and when I had perfect scores they used to tell me that it's not enough and I should put more effort into studding. Eventually I stopped caring about the scores and they just kept on talking and talking that I'm not gonna make it into life, that I'm gonna be cleaning toilets and beat my head into the wall cause I'll have no options in life... when in the end, I have a lot more options then they ever had
chobi wrote:and the only reasons I'm beating my head into the wall right now is cause they are dragging me back because they constantly need my help and I'm spending my free time on them instead of improving myself or working on personal projects that can help me in the future. I even had to drop out of university so I can get full time job so I can pay their dept which was not that appreciated from their side. They still rub salt into that saying that I failed in life cause I decided to help them when they didn't have jobs.
chobi wrote:I think that kind of talk (coming from our parents) might come from older and pretty much obsolete life style that doesn't apply to our daily life. You can use that kinda "Negative motivation" to destroy personality of people and shape them into nice soldiers but in their situation they are a part of a group. At home, you get singled out with nobody to relate to or rely on.
chobi wrote:Ultimately local environment is very influential for building up our characters as we grow up and this negativity can be very harmful. You can maybe use it as fuel or motivation if you are able to get out of that negative environment, if you can find people to help you bring out the best of you or something like that...

chobi wrote:But MonkeyGirl, I want you to keep in mind that suffering is more or less needed in order to get angry to push you towards wanting better for yourself and pushes you towards what you need to be happy. It's sad that often we can't rely on our own family, but there are a lot of people like this out there, and we can rely on each other if we find them. People like this tend to be kinder and I can often feel it from people when they've suffered. What makes me really sad is that it seems like suffering is needed for people to be kind :c
But keep a look out, there are nice people out there and help can be hiding just around the corner, just don't be too eager to place your trust in total strangers




Lemon Cheesecake wrote:Chobi - is there any way you can take night classes for University or online? I had a person I worked with that had a fulltime day job she was able to work around her class schedule (shifts) and she'd take early morning or late evening classes. I am sorry your parents don't appreciate the sacrifice that you made for them. Maybe you should have let them learn a hard lesson and had to sell off their possessions etc to cover their debt.Sometimes there comes a point when you have to tell them that they had their chance and you need to live your own life. They put you in the position of being the parent so you may need to be more direct and with them and give them the ultimatums.

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